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Friends With Offers of Benefits  

rm_rakehell500 70M
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6/1/2015 3:32 pm

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6/3/2015 1:17 pm

Friends With Offers of Benefits

This has happened to me numerous times over the years whether I was in a relationship or not, and since it happened again the other day I am going to finally ask the question of woman and men, but I need to explain what I mean.

I have mentioned to some of you in various comments I went through a spell in the seventies and eighties where every time I went out, and sometimes just in conversation, women would casually note they would like to have a with me. Most were not looking for a husband or even a relationship. They just liked my qualities (and I wish they had told me what they were, because I could not see them).

This happened with younger women and older women. To be frank, I got a little paranoid, feeling as if before going on date I should ask if she was going to want a baby. It was about the third thing my first wife, Angelique ever said to me, "I want to have your ."

You've seen my picture, I'm no lady-killer, even with hair.

That isn't the phenomena I meant though. The one I am discussing here is a bit more complex than the previous one which may have just been biology calling to an unused uterus from ready eggs. This one I don't know about.

So Friday, a friend, younger than me by several years, out of the blue says: "You know, if I weren't in a good relationship I'd sleep with you in a minute."

Granted we were kidding and flirting, I'm a little flirtatious, but not annoying with it, just enough to show an interest without being creepy or out of place, showing an appreciation but not ogling or touching or invading their space, but that came from left field, and the thing is it isn't the first time women have said that to me, almost always women younger than me. I ran into this with some of my first two wives friends as well.

"If you weren't married to ...",

'If I wasn't dating ....,"

"If I wasn't in a relationship with, engaged to, sleeping with ..." It goes on. I've heard it four times here, once the first week. Some of them apologize for not having sex with me when I didn't ask.

"I'd really like to, but I think this thing with _____ is serious."

I didn't ask her.

I'm not talking about blogging, but in person, face to face, friends you know and see fairly often even friends where you are close to their partner.

Granted it is flattering, if a little awkward. What do you reply? "I'd nail you in a minute?"

"How's that relationship going?" I actually used that one once, but for a laugh.

"My wife keeps me on a short leash?"

"I'd like to, but my doctor told me to cut down on my cholesterol?"

So the question is to the men, have you had this experience with a woman friend or friend's wife or friend of your wife or girlfriend? And ladies, have you ever said this to a man and did you mean it, and what was his reaction when you did?

I'm serious, I just want to know how common it is. I know it isn't unusual for members of the opposite sex thrown together as friends are to flirt and be attracted, but do most women come out and say it like that. They aren't propositioning me, its more like an apology, but a sincere one, like : "I'd really like to but I just can't ..."

I have to point out, I mean really light flirting, things like how hot she looks, or how great her hair looks, or what an attractive woman she is, no propositions, no hints, no serious seduction, sometimes it just comes our of clear air with no flirting at all.

"I'd sleep with you right now if I wasn't ..."

Honestly, have you ever said this to anyone face to face?






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rm_rakehell500 70M
4241 posts
6/3/2015 1:13 pm

    Quoting  :

Maybe I just meet sluttier women than most. More likely I just attract more outspoken types. All three wives informed me they were going to sleep with me before I asked.

I don't get it all the time by any means, but it is not rare either and it happened with friends of all three wives. I know it was meant as a compliment, but there is an implication that that they don't think the relationship is going to last all that much longer in just saying it.

Sarah suggested I made women comfortable and they said things they might regret, save for her, she never regretted anything she said except the first time she said "I do."

I wouldn't be surprised at a BBQ or a cocktail party with someone a few drinks to the better, but this is usually stone cold sober and in a more or less serious conversation. Maybe it's just French, Texas, and Oklahoma girls.



Lust brings you together, love keeps you there, sex keeps the mechanism lubricated.


rm_rakehell500 70M
4241 posts
6/2/2015 6:41 pm

    Quoting  :

Exactly.

This is what I was hoping someone would point out. What I hear when it is said, is "When I decided to cheat or to leave the other person you are at the top of the list of men I want to sleep with."

A few times I resisted saying "You'll have to ask my wife."

Women say it as a passive compliment, but I don't feel that way about it, because if she has thought about it --- beyond the kind of casual "I wonder what he's like in bed," thought that anyone regardless of the relationship status might think (we can't control the mind or the sexual signals it send sends and picks up, only how we act or don't act on them) then she is expressing something more than the idea.

Maybe I'm naïve. I don't know how often women do this or how many men experience it. Maybe its pretty common. I assume I'm not unique. I know I have some qualities women like, and while I don't think I'm the least attractive I know I am tall, broad shouldered, V shaped, masculine, probably way too self assured, fairly witty, well dressed, educated, and sophisticated, any one of which may set me apart from 90% of the men in this part of the world and I have presence, I always have had ---- it's a family trait. That and people, men and women, naturally trust me and open up to me, even when I wish they wouldn't.

That may explain it. I think a lot of women respond as much to someone they can talk to as to someone who is handsome. Women found Kissinger sexy and I worked for him, maybe it rubbed off.

But I don't get the impression that sober women (and I discounted anyone who had to much to drink when I wrote this) usually do this, and like you I think they are saying more than they actually express in words.

It reminds me when I was dating after Sarah died and a common type I met was involved seriously with someone else, fairly long term relationships and maybe even marriage discussions, but they were still out their shopping, thinking maybe they would meet something better. I don't understand this mindset. If you are still looking at that point for someone better, it isn't going to work. If you are telling someone you would go to bed with them if you weren't in a relationship then you are telling them that you may not always be in the one you are in now.

I don't think I'm unique. I suspect other men are getting these signals too, and just as blatantly.

I always feel as if they are marking territory for future reference.



Lust brings you together, love keeps you there, sex keeps the mechanism lubricated.


rm_rakehell500 70M
4241 posts
6/1/2015 4:40 pm

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    I think if my life does change in anyways I am going to try this FWB out .. Sounds like a good solution.. Not going to happen anytime soon! hugsssssssss V
These women were nice women, not sluts, or oversexed, or anything like that, they were attractive women, but happily involved, and for some reason stone cold sober they would inform me they would have sex with me if they weren't in a relationship. The last one just turned 30.

That's going a little far to cheer a guy up. I don't recall "I'd fuck you," as one of the techniques to treat depression.

Do other guys get this that often from women? Do women say that to men that much?



Lust brings you together, love keeps you there, sex keeps the mechanism lubricated.


rm_rakehell500 70M
4241 posts
6/1/2015 4:36 pm

    Quoting ChateauLatour63:
    Im going through this right now, doubts about my own relationship, and Ive met s really attractive, funny, just terrific girl. Quandry !!
My relationships were great, in a few, like now I wasn't in one, but they were and sincerely offering if they just hadn't been. Quandry is the word.

Sorry about your situation. Relationships have ups and downs, and sometimes you have to know the downs may not have an up after some point. Hope you get it straight in your head and end up with the best choice for you.



Lust brings you together, love keeps you there, sex keeps the mechanism lubricated.


sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
6/1/2015 3:39 pm

I think if my life does change in anyways I am going to try this FWB out .. Sounds like a good solution.. Not going to happen anytime soon! hugsssssssss V

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