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Freedom…  

khuXBFXM8u 62M
6260 posts
7/29/2014 9:52 pm
Freedom…

defined as: the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint.



In any society with rules of conduct (written or unwritten), is it possible for any of us to be truly free in any aspect of life, or even sexually for that matter?


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lil_whimsical 53F
8781 posts
7/29/2014 10:09 pm

... of course not ...


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
7/29/2014 10:20 pm

What whimsi said....

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/29/2014 11:36 pm

I was expecting a little more out of you.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/29/2014 11:36 pm



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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/29/2014 11:39 pm

    Quoting  :

Sorry, didn't mean this to be a downer post. But thanks for expending the energy to contemplate.

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spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/30/2014 2:54 am

I don't think we can ever be truly free.
Another more psotive view of freedom is the ability to fulfill one's own potential. This view requires redistribution of power and wealth from the rich to the poor.
The rich are free to do more than the poor even when not confined.


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
7/30/2014 8:15 am

We were both up late...on different parts of the planet.

Busted flat in Baton Rouge, waitin' for a train
And I's feelin' near as faded as my jeans

When you're invested in something, you give up a bit of freedom, or a lot of it. You OWE something, and have obligations.

Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose
Nothin', don't mean nothin' hon' if it ain't free

When you bump the bottom, you owe no one and nothing is expected of you. You very nearly cease to exist in the reckonings of the crowd around you. I think this is freedom but it comes with a cost. Buddha teaches this- the eradication of expectations. Disengagement in order to achieve understanding.

Better?

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openagenda 108M
6275 posts
7/30/2014 10:21 am

As long as you play conservative and "sheepishly" follow the "rules". Tis what keeps society civil.


CampoGirl 58F
43434 posts
7/30/2014 11:39 am

Nope... we arent free... not completely. Too many rules and judgments to ever really be free in every way.

If I were a hermit living in the woods 500 miles from the nearest person, I might think differently

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sexysixties2 106F
39750 posts
7/30/2014 11:54 am

It's impossible to be completely free...there are obligations on us all, social, family, legal, moral. We can never and should never be in the position of doing everything we want.

"Age does not protect you from love, but love, to some extent, protects you from age."

~~Anais Nin~~


khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 8:09 am

    Quoting spunkycumfun:
    I don't think we can ever be truly free.
    Another more psotive view of freedom is the ability to fulfill one's own potential. This view requires redistribution of power and wealth from the rich to the poor.
    The rich are free to do more than the poor even when not confined.
An interesting view TC, and very true... to steal an economic term, there are always "barriers to entry" to realize one's true potential.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 8:10 am

    Quoting  :

So then there is freedom in your mind... in a sense

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 8:13 am

    Quoting  :

J. you know I am a bit of an idealist. I didn't want to inject geography into the discussion, but to discuss how the concept is defined and the reality of human existence.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 8:15 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    We were both up late...on different parts of the planet.

    Busted flat in Baton Rouge, waitin' for a train
    And I's feelin' near as faded as my jeans

    When you're invested in something, you give up a bit of freedom, or a lot of it. You OWE something, and have obligations.

    Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose
    Nothin', don't mean nothin' hon' if it ain't free

    When you bump the bottom, you owe no one and nothing is expected of you. You very nearly cease to exist in the reckonings of the crowd around you. I think this is freedom but it comes with a cost. Buddha teaches this- the eradication of expectations. Disengagement in order to achieve understanding.

    Better?
Much better!

Find pleasure in giving pleasure


khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 8:21 am

    Quoting George_W_Johnson:
    I think the defining factor is the physical restraint

    we are free to move about - can work hard and prosper or we can choose to live on the streets

    but with that freedom there is a responsibility to live within a set of rules designed so the we in essence do not infringe upon anyone else s freedoms
That my friend is the conundrum... to approach true freedom, we must give freedom; and when freedom is given to someone else, they may decide a course of action that infringes on our freedoms.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 8:25 am

    Quoting  :

Agreed, it is because we and others can't collectively act in a responsible manner towards others, that limits our freedom. But the more freedom we want, the more we have to allow other to have.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 8:27 am

    Quoting openagenda:
    As long as you play conservative and "sheepishly" follow the "rules". Tis what keeps society civil.
There is a blog post.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 8:35 am

    Quoting  :

It all depends on the side of the coin you are on.

The golden rule as it is called... "do onto other", is just being more and more legislated, so that others can also enjoy the same level of freedom. For example, women, visible minorities, LGBT etc.

Just think, if the internet was around 60, 70, 80 years ago, would we be able to do what we do on this website... or would someone like Joseph McCarthy be stocking us with tar and feathers, or worse.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 8:52 am

    Quoting CampoGirl:
    Nope... we arent free... not completely. Too many rules and judgments to ever really be free in every way.

    If I were a hermit living in the woods 500 miles from the nearest person, I might think differently
Right up until the logging company showed up with papers. There really only needs to be the one rule... "do onto others"

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 8:54 am

    Quoting sexysixties2:
    It's impossible to be completely free...there are obligations on us all, social, family, legal, moral. We can never and should never be in the position of doing everything we want.
Sexy... are you from the school of absolute freedom, corrupts absolutely?

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 8:58 am

    Quoting  :

-H', you would think we would be free to love who we want. Even though the "rules" may say we can, powerful portions of society are dead set against us loving freely.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 9:01 am

    Quoting  :

Having difficult with getting thought to paper, seems to run in the family Sis.

It is the imperfection in human, that can make greater freedom, lead to less freedom.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/31/2014 9:05 am

    Quoting  :



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sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
7/31/2014 9:08 am

We seem to be losing a lot of our freedom in recent years. hugsssss V

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
8/1/2014 12:15 am

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    We seem to be losing a lot of our freedom in recent years. hugsssss V
I don't agree with that. I think in the big picture it has been a trade off... loose some freedoms to get others.

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