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pal334 69M  
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7/10/2016 4:16 am

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~~~ Stolen Valor

Yesterday was a day that I will remember for awhile. I live in a community that has a large population of active duty and retired military people. I was at a coffee shop with a friend having a cup of coffee. We noticed one fellow in particular that came in to the shop with a noticeably messed up and improperly worn military uniform. The shop does provide a discount to all military members when they show their Identification card. This person demanded in a loud voice that they give him the discount but refused to show ID. Just before my friend and I were getting up to deal with this person ,a Police Officer came in and shut this punk up. I went to the officer and requested that he verify the punks military status. He did not have a military ID , this jerk was just trying to use the uniform to get various discounts (he had a shopping bag with a receipt that showed he had gotten a military discount for sneakers). We told the Policeman that we wanted to file charges against the man under the Stolen Valor Act. Very little pisses me off more than a person impersonating a military member and usually by doing so causes embarrassment. Now this punk is pending a hearing for this charge. Have you ever seen this type of activity? Does it bother you if you do?

The Stolen Valor Act of 2013 (Pub.L. 113–12; H.R. 25 is a United States federal law that was passed by the 113th United States Congress. The law amends the federal criminal code to make it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received any of a series of particular military decorations with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit from convincing someone that he or she rightfully did receive that award. This law is a revised version of a previous one that was struck down by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case United States v. Alvarez for being an infringement of the constitutional right to freedom of speech.











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SimpleLatina 59F
3447 posts
7/10/2016 5:27 am

I am glad you did. they are despicable people


lomileage5 68M
10248 posts
7/10/2016 6:15 am

good job Pal! that behavior irritates me,even tho I'm not military. I have seen it. I have also known guys who rant incessantly about their servicetime in combat,when investigation proved they NEVER got anywhere near active combat. the Vets who were in combat rarely even say a word,while the phonies crow nonstop


superbjversion2 69F  
24388 posts
7/10/2016 7:07 am

Unfortunately, I'm not knowledgeable enough to tell the difference. If I did know, I'd expose the fakes.

Any pictures of you in your dress uniform?

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sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
7/10/2016 7:51 am

This just makes me sick Pal. What people will do to get a discount. Good for you doing this. Yes we saw it in Canada at Remembrance Day 11 November where someone dress up like a soldier and was stupid enough to get interviewed by the press. He was later charged. That was in 2014.

Reports of fake soldier at Ottawa Remembrance Day ceremony being investigated

he Canadian Press
Published Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:25PM EST
Last Updated Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:35PM EST


OTTAWA -- Police are looking into claims that a man impersonated a Canadian soldier when he showed up in full -- but flawed -- military regalia at this week's Remembrance Day ceremonies in Ottawa.

Eagle-eyed veterans and soldiers knew right away that something was amiss as the man was being interviewed during CBC's live coverage of Tuesday's events near the National War Memorial.

Various media reports have cited complaints about the style of the man's beard, the type of beret on his head, the positioning of his medals and badges and the fact that he wasn't wearing a sash during the interview.
Photos
Remembrance Day Ottawa

People place poppies at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier following the Remembrance Day ceremony at the National War Memorial in Ottawa on Tuesday, Nov. 11, 2014. (The Canadian Press/Justin Tang)

It is a crime under the Criminal Code to impersonate a soldier.

After initially saying they had not received a formal complaint, Ottawa police issued a tweet Thursday to say that they would be launching an investigation following "numerous inquiries" about the man.

"The man possibly made unlawful use of military uniform or certificates at the Remembrance Day ceremony in Ottawa," said the tweet.

Earlier in the day, an Ottawa police spokesman said no one had filed a complaint about the man, whose appearance on television reportedly prompted a number of complaints from veterans and soldiers alike.

During a live CBC interview, the man identified himself as Franck Gervais -- but the Department of National Defence says it has no record of anyone by that name.

The public broadcaster has since issued a statement expressing regret about the interview, saying it would be "following up to learn more about the man."

The Defence Department issued a terse statement.

"Members of the Canadian Armed Forces take great pride in wearing their uniforms," National Defence spokesman Daniel Le Bouthillier wrote in an email.

"Such activities are a disservice to the proud men and women of the Canadian Armed Forces, who earn the right to wear their uniforms for the hard work and sacrifices made for our country."

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sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
7/10/2016 7:54 am

Franck Gervais, accused of impersonating soldier, pleads guilty

The Canadian Press
Published Wednesday, March 4, 2015 6:08PM EST

OTTAWA -- A Quebec man accused of impersonating a Canadian soldier has pleaded guilty to unlawfully wearing a military uniform and medals.

Two other charges against Franck Gervais of impersonating a public officer have been dropped.

Gervais came into the public spotlight last November after he was interviewed while wearing a military uniform, including a medal of bravery and other decorations, near Ottawa's National War Memorial on Remembrance Day.
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Almost immediately after the interview was aired, questions were raised by a number of veterans about his identity and whether he was actually a soldier.

In fact, the 32-year-old Gervais was not a member of the Canadian Forces.

Gervais, who lives in Cantley, Que., appeared in an Ottawa court Wednesday, where he pleaded guilty to the unlawful use of a military uniform and unlawful use of military decoration.

Outside the courthouse, Gervais's lawyer Claude Levesque said his client feels remorse for what he has done.

"My client apologizes for his action," said Levesque.

"He never wanted to disrespect the men, women who wear the uniform or their sacrifice, and for that he apologizes."

He really didn't get very much for his action from the court of law. Why do people do these kind of things? Same as your guys who you saw as well? Why???

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Tmptrzz 61F  
107039 posts
7/10/2016 9:03 am

It's a shame when people try to take advantage of things like this...it sounds like he needs some professional help,. He may be a homeless person that needs some help. I hope he gets it and he doesn't do this anymore it's just WRONG!!!

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spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/10/2016 10:26 am

Ex-service people don't generally get discounts here, but very occasionally we see people pretending to be soldiers to attract women. Either way it's a low thing to do.


scott6250 61M

7/10/2016 1:44 pm

You guys did the right thing. I hate when people who have never served impersonate those who have. It is an honor to have served and it is good to give soldiers the discounts that you do.

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/10/2016 3:30 pm

    Quoting SimpleLatina:
    I am glad you did. they are despicable people
I agree. claiming something you are not is so sad.

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/10/2016 3:31 pm

    Quoting lomileage5:
    good job Pal! that behavior irritates me,even tho I'm not military. I have seen it. I have also known guys who rant incessantly about their servicetime in combat,when investigation proved they NEVER got anywhere near active combat. the Vets who were in combat rarely even say a word,while the phonies crow nonstop
There is that also. Some folks just are not satisfied with their lives

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/10/2016 3:34 pm

    Quoting  :

Thank you . You are right, we need to be more and more aggressive in stopping it

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/10/2016 3:35 pm

    Quoting superbjversion2:
    Unfortunately, I'm not knowledgeable enough to tell the difference. If I did know, I'd expose the fakes.

    Any pictures of you in your dress uniform?
That would be good if you could. I am reluctant to post pictures in uniform, just makes me uncomfortable

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/10/2016 3:39 pm

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    This just makes me sick Pal. What people will do to get a discount. Good for you doing this. Yes we saw it in Canada at Remembrance Day 11 November where someone dress up like a soldier and was stupid enough to get interviewed by the press. He was later charged. That was in 2014.

    Reports of fake soldier at Ottawa Remembrance Day ceremony being investigated

    he Canadian Press
    Published Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:25PM EST
    Last Updated Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:35PM EST


    OTTAWA -- Police are looking into claims that a man impersonated a Canadian soldier when he showed up in full -- but flawed -- military regalia at this week's Remembrance Day ceremonies in Ottawa.

    Eagle-eyed veterans and soldiers knew right away that something was amiss as the man was being interviewed during CBC's live coverage of Tuesday's events near the National War Memorial.

    Various media reports have cited complaints about the style of the man's beard, the type of beret on his head, the positioning of his medals and badges and the fact that he wasn't wearing a sash during the interview.
    Photos
    Remembrance Day Ottawa

    People place poppies at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier following the Remembrance Day ceremony at the National War Memorial in Ottawa on Tuesday, Nov. 11, 2014. (The Canadian Press/Justin Tang)

    It is a crime under the Criminal Code to impersonate a soldier.

    After initially saying they had not received a formal complaint, Ottawa police issued a tweet Thursday to say that they would be launching an investigation following "numerous inquiries" about the man.

    "The man possibly made unlawful use of military uniform or certificates at the Remembrance Day ceremony in Ottawa," said the tweet.

    Earlier in the day, an Ottawa police spokesman said no one had filed a complaint about the man, whose appearance on television reportedly prompted a number of complaints from veterans and soldiers alike.

    During a live CBC interview, the man identified himself as Franck Gervais -- but the Department of National Defence says it has no record of anyone by that name.

    The public broadcaster has since issued a statement expressing regret about the interview, saying it would be "following up to learn more about the man."

    The Defence Department issued a terse statement.

    "Members of the Canadian Armed Forces take great pride in wearing their uniforms," National Defence spokesman Daniel Le Bouthillier wrote in an email.

    "Such activities are a disservice to the proud men and women of the Canadian Armed Forces, who earn the right to wear their uniforms for the hard work and sacrifices made for our country."
It makes a difference when someone knowledgeable is around

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/10/2016 3:40 pm

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    Franck Gervais, accused of impersonating soldier, pleads guilty

    The Canadian Press
    Published Wednesday, March 4, 2015 6:08PM EST

    OTTAWA -- A Quebec man accused of impersonating a Canadian soldier has pleaded guilty to unlawfully wearing a military uniform and medals.

    Two other charges against Franck Gervais of impersonating a public officer have been dropped.

    Gervais came into the public spotlight last November after he was interviewed while wearing a military uniform, including a medal of bravery and other decorations, near Ottawa's National War Memorial on Remembrance Day.
    Related Stories

    Fake soldier missing in action at court appearance
    Ottawa police charge Cantley man with impersonating a soldier

    Almost immediately after the interview was aired, questions were raised by a number of veterans about his identity and whether he was actually a soldier.

    In fact, the 32-year-old Gervais was not a member of the Canadian Forces.

    Gervais, who lives in Cantley, Que., appeared in an Ottawa court Wednesday, where he pleaded guilty to the unlawful use of a military uniform and unlawful use of military decoration.

    Outside the courthouse, Gervais's lawyer Claude Levesque said his client feels remorse for what he has done.

    "My client apologizes for his action," said Levesque.

    "He never wanted to disrespect the men, women who wear the uniform or their sacrifice, and for that he apologizes."

    He really didn't get very much for his action from the court of law. Why do people do these kind of things? Same as your guys who you saw as well? Why???
I am not sure why they do it, but at least the court did take action.

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/10/2016 3:42 pm

    Quoting Tmptrzz:
    It's a shame when people try to take advantage of things like this...it sounds like he needs some professional help,. He may be a homeless person that needs some help. I hope he gets it and he doesn't do this anymore it's just WRONG!!!
I appreciate your compassion. My hope is he gets the punishment that he deserves

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/10/2016 3:44 pm

    Quoting spunkycumfun:
    Ex-service people don't generally get discounts here, but very occasionally we see people pretending to be soldiers to attract women. Either way it's a low thing to do.
[center It is very low and disrespectful

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/10/2016 3:48 pm

    Quoting  :

It is, hopefully this lesson will teach him

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/10/2016 3:49 pm

    Quoting scott6250:
    You guys did the right thing. I hate when people who have never served impersonate those who have. It is an honor to have served and it is good to give soldiers the discounts that you do.
It is a shame, they are not smart enough to serve, but are willing to take the credit(

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