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Should I, shoudn't I ?  

SamanthaCl 53F
90 posts
1/23/2015 6:35 am
Should I, shoudn't I ?


Recently I have been seriously considering breaking a self-imposed rule and actually meeting up with some of the people from this site. I never intended to physically meet people from this site, I only came here for the chat and out of curiosity. But there are some really, really nice people here and I am becoming curious.

OK, I know that meeting up can be disappointing, but I am not expecting a whirlwind romance, I'm just meeting with friends. We would chat, have a coffee and have sex if things flowed in that direction. It all seems pretty harmless.

OK, I know I have a partner, but I am very discreet. He would not know anything and these meetings would not be a long term affair. Just meeting another friend for coffee. No commitments, no connections, no sad goodbyes or longing for more. I haven't used the term NSA as it sounds so cold and emotionless. These meetings would be filled with emotion but they would simply lack expectations and demands. Just meeting another friend for coffee... and maybe more.

OK, so what is stopping me...

I have a friend who is going through a divorce. We regularly meet for coffee. She is a wonderful person, down to earth, honest, kind and a little insecure. For the past twelve months she has been going through hell. Her husband was seeing a younger woman. He started lying, running up huge debts and has completely changed his character. When I first learned of this I was outraged. With my help I encourage her to find the strength to pack her bags and leave him. Over the year she has found a strength that she never new she had, I am really proud of her. Things are not yet over. He does not want a divorce or to sell the house, the debts are closing in and he has lost his job, but my friend is struggling on, determined to close this chapter and return to some sort of normal life.

OK, so you sill want to know what is stopping me?

As I have already said, when I first learned of his cheating I was outraged. For the last twelve months I was outraged. How could he do this to my beautiful, honest friend. Yesterday I met with her again. I caught up with the latest news, listened to her despair and her hopes. But this time, underneath, I found myself actually feeling sorry for him. Feeling that he was somehow a victim. I felt like this because I was planning to do something similar myself. Planning on cheating. The more I listened to her, the more I looked into her sad eyes, the more I realised that cheating can NEVER be justified.

If you are thinking of cheating, if you are weighing up the pros and cons, my advice is DON'T. If you could see my friend's sad and broken soul you would see how devastating it can be. Breaking up is an awful thing to go though. DON'T DO IT! Even if you think you can get away with it, DON'T DO IT. Getting away with it is not the point. Spend that extra time with your partner, spend that extra money on your partner, make that existing relationship special. I will never forgive you, I will never forgive myself!

Kisses
Samantha


iamwhatiam49 75M

1/23/2015 6:41 am

When you get older will you look back and say I wish I had done that? If the answer is no then don't meet, but if the answer is maybe, or yes then you have the solution


SamanthaCl replies on 1/23/2015 7:12 am:
I absolutely agree with your philosophy and I apply it to my life all the time. But, if the question is an immoral one, if the question will cause harm to others, then doesn't the answer becomes a little to heavy for such a belief.

when I look back I will say 'I was honest, I was strong and I know the true value of love'.

Ne14_69wMe 56F
282 posts
1/23/2015 6:47 am

We only do those things when what we have isn't enough. Generally, it's about being able to communicate needs and be heard. Some people communicate their needs with words, others with actions. Some people listen with their ears, others won't listen until something extraordinary happens.

IMO, cheating is a symptom of not being fulfilled and not taking stock of oneself to draw a line. That line is somewhere in the arena of "This is what I need for now, and if you can't fulfill that need, or are unwilling to, what we're doing isn't going to work".

How many people in jail thought they would get caught?

Your mileage may vary.


SamanthaCl replies on 1/23/2015 7:36 am:
There is so much truth in your reply. The more I read this the more I find myself peeling away the plasters... I shall re-read this replay many times.

hughjarce 68M
595 posts
1/23/2015 7:06 am

That was very honest and deliberating and I empathise completely;
We have been married 35 years and are best friends and still have a great marriage and fun relationship. The only thing missing is our sex life.
She lost interest completely after the menopause and has asked me to accept her missing sex-drive and lack of intimacy as 'an illness', the same way she would do with my own health problems....
We have talked this over and over and the fact is my libido is stronger than ever and I feel I really need sex in my life, but I cannot bear to lose everything else we have built together including a large loving family.
I registered on here with a view to finding a woman in a similar situation, hoping we could find a clandestine compromise?
So far I have not met anyone and there is a part of me, relieved that I have not strayed, although my sexual frustration is causing deep unhappiness.
The vast majority of couples we know(knew) have all split up for one reason or another and that is a deterrent of sorts, but I am so 'lonely'...


SamanthaCl replies on 1/23/2015 8:02 am:
I am glad you have not strayed, but above all, I am glad you feel relieved in not straying. It shows that you still value love.

I am really sorry that you are deeply unhappy, but are you really lonely? How can you be lonely when you still share each others lives? Loneliness is cheating, loneliness is arguing, loneliness is divorce...

There are many people, the couples you know for one, who would love to wind back time to the position you are in now and not take that fateful step to true loneliness.

I really hope things work out for you...

lokee100 60M

1/23/2015 7:07 am

You being on this web site speaks volumns' what are you doing here? Isn't chatting with a stranger cheating? Your talking about very personal things or issues in your life with strangers why aren't you spending that quality time with your partner? Like all the rest of us your here for a reason whether you realize that or not is up to you. Cheating is cheating live a little and try not to be such a hypocrite.


SamanthaCl replies on 1/23/2015 1:26 pm:
I am here for online chat and friendship only. Whenever I am invited to something more I often ask myself the question 'what am I doing here'. I don't want to let anyone down or lead people into false expectations. I believe that many people are here for online friendship, but if I find I am upsetting people I will leave. I just want people to be happy.

As for me cheating? I have also wondered about that too. It is true that I am keeping my activity on here a secret and that I am talking about very personal things. Is this cheating? All I know is that I have learned, by being on this site, how lucky I am in my relationship. When I finish and evening of chatting and reading I always feel much closer to my partner than I did before. I am so lucky, and this site has made me realise that. I don't think that is cheating. I am a better person, a better lover, than before.

burblesback07 42M
531 posts
1/31/2015 3:00 am

When you see the damage and destruction it can cause first hand its hard to justify straying !!


SamanthaCl replies on 1/31/2015 4:17 am:
The trouble is, you have to constantly remind yourself of the damage and destruction. The temptation to stray is like a magnet, always pulling at you. If you loose grip on those memories I fear the attraction would be too strong to overcome.

JSD666 62M
55 posts
6/16/2015 8:15 am

This is a fascinating discussion and one that I can empathise with fully.

I've been married a very long time too (as per hugejarce) and my wife has no libido at all. We have a great life in all ways except in the bedroom.

It has taken me a long time to reconcile things mentally and to finally enrol on this site etc. Since doing so I have met up with a couple of very nice ladies and feel much more fulfilled with life.

People are obviously on here for many different reasons (judging by some of the profiles I've read), some of which are age and situation related.

My advice, for what it is worth, is to only meet if you are 100% happy that it is the right thing to do for YOU.


SamanthaCl replies on 6/17/2015 12:41 pm:
It seems odd, don't you think, that two people in two separate relationships can meet for coffee or an evening drink or share an hobby or interest with each other... and yet to meet up for sex is taboo.

I wonder if, given time, meeting up for sex will hold no more stigma than meeting up for coffee?

You are a pioneer sir... Once we reach the enlightened age they will build statues and monuments in your honour

JSD666 62M
55 posts
6/18/2015 4:19 am

Lol - a monument in my honour, now theres a thought!

I somehow doubt that we will get to the point you mentioned but it certainly is a very interesting thought and the reasoning behind it makes perfect sense to me (but then it would, people might say!!).

In fact the more I think about the more logical it seems!

Since your original posting was a few months ago has your position changed at all and have you carried through with your intentions?


SamanthaCl replies on 8/21/2015 7:12 am:
Have I carried through with my intentions?... NO

Has my position changed?... That's not so easy. When I wrote this post I was sure that I had found the answer, and, whenever I speak with my friend, I convince myself I have found the answer. And yet I seem to be desperately seeking a different solution, a different truth.

waytoohorny1966 58M

8/26/2015 11:29 am

There is no simple right or wrong answer to any of this. Most people's situations will differ. Certainly, my circumstances haven't been been covered by any of the posts so far.

Ultimately, we have natural, biological needs and sometimes it is impossible to overcome those needs.

I have unfulfilled needs which have to be addressed. If I get found out, people will get hurt. If I do nothing, I get hurt. I feel that I can manage my situation, by connecting with people here. It's wrong, but life isn't fair.

There is also the saying: Better to regret the things you do than the things you don't do.

Peace and love all xx


dingbatdingbatdi 56M

10/13/2019 2:25 pm

cheating is like cutting off someone's leg because they hurt your feelings, or because they ignored you- it permanently affects someone

divorce is legal-

there is never a good excuse to cheat


SamanthaCl replies on 10/13/2019 3:14 pm:
I know cheating is not good. Hurting someone you love is not good. But its really going around in my mind right now.

Maybe, in the future, it will be acceptable to take a 'relationship holiday'? A break where you can expand your sexual horizon without consequences and return to your partner re-charged and re-energised?

Just like taking a spa weekend but for sexual gratification instead

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