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Tove Lo’s A Singer, But Is She A Swinger? A Look At “Habits (Stay High)”  

humorlife 56M  
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1/10/2015 9:31 pm
Tove Lo’s A Singer, But Is She A Swinger? A Look At “Habits (Stay High)”


Anyone having a “Did I just hear that?” moment in a public place recently may have caught a bit of “Habits (Stay High),” a tune from Swedish singer Tove Lo. For the uninitiated, the song –

Well, here's the first stanza:

I eat my dinner in my bathtub
Then I go to sex clubs
Watching freaky people gettin' it on
It doesn't make me nervous
If anything I'm restless
Yeah, I've been around and I've seen it all


The song – and the whole EP on which it appears – is autobiographical, with a touch or two of creative license about a bad breakup. As Lo told Out magazine in an article titled “Tove Lo Is the World’s Most Honest Pop Star,” “It’s about one relationship. It’s all in order, that’s how it happened.”

This raises a question, though: Does she, in fact, swing? A reporter for English newspaper The Guardian posed that very question to her in “One to watch: Tove Lo.” As Guardian reporter Tim Jonze wrote:

“Lo has described Habits as her most honest song, so I put her to a quick honesty test. Has she ever, as the lyrics say, visited sex clubs?

‘Er, I can't talk about that… er, OK, yeah, but only once!’”

What about a later line, in which Lo sings about picking daddies up in playgrounds? The Guardian didn’t shy away from that question, either:

“‘Umm… ok, maybe not in the playground,’ [Lo] says, looking like she'd quite like the honesty test to end.”

So much for what happens in the clubs (or the playgrounds) staying in the playgrounds! The Guardian’s Jonze also asked her about personal backlash: Quoth the Guardian:

“Lo says a song can never be too truthful, but being so forthright can cause problems. Her parents, both academics without a musical bone between them, have found her racier songs somewhat difficult to process.

“‘They've been worried,’ she says. ‘They don't watch the videos, they stay away from the lyrics, and my dad has not said one thing about my tattoos!’”

In Paper magazine’s article “Scandinavian Singer Tove Lo Doesn’t Want To Be A Good Girl,” she remains fiercely unapologetic – as she should.

“I feel like there's something good about being there to say, ‘sometimes girls mess up and you don't have to try to be the good, perfect girl,’ Tove Lo says during [Paper magazine’s] interview. In a world that is often completely insane, she laments, ‘there's always that pressure to be kind of sane but you don't always have to be a good girl or act perfectly. You can always correct your mistakes, so don't be afraid to speak your mind.’”

Swinging – or at least singing about swinging – sells, though: “Habits” was a double-platinum single in both the United States and Canada.

So is that the last word on Lo and swinging? Maybe. There’s a quote making the rounds, ostensibly from Q magazine: “It all happened. My habit isn't to go to sex clubs, but I have been. Some people have a problem with me portraying that ugliness, but that's the only way I can write.”

I haven’t been able to find it in Q itself – I’ve only seen it on a few “behind the lyrics” sites, so I’ve got questions about its veracity. But for the sake of argument let’s assume it’s more or less authentic. Ugliness?

The swinging community isn’t any place to work out your relationship issues, whether as a single person, a couple, or a poly arrangement. When folks find swinging ugly, it’s likely because of the baggage their bringing to it. But ugliness in and of itself? No.

I sure hope that quote’s a fake.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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1/10/2015 9:48 pm

Well, that IS odd, isn't it? Ugliness? There is plenty of ugliness in humans, but..really? Having sex because you want to is the epitome of ugliness? OK, I'm becoming overwrought. That's not what she supposedly said. It sort of sounds as if she tried some lyrics for shock value and ended up shocking herself. She could qualify as a member of Congress! Only a little more bullshit, just a few more...prevarications.

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humorlife 56M  
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1/10/2015 10:02 pm

    Quoting kzoopair:
    Well, that IS odd, isn't it? Ugliness? There is plenty of ugliness in humans, but..really? Having sex because you want to is the epitome of ugliness? OK, I'm becoming overwrought. That's not what she supposedly said. It sort of sounds as if she tried some lyrics for shock value and ended up shocking herself. She could qualify as a member of Congress! Only a little more bullshit, just a few more...prevarications.
She could well have been talking about the ugliness of what was -- for her, if not for the community in general -- self-destructive behavior... and that's if she said it at all.

Either way, it's an unfortunate quote. People who are comfortable in the lifestyle are often quite joyful... as are people who are comfortable in their faith, or who truly enjoy stamp collecting, or any of a number of activities.

Or, for that matter, even the degenerates who like nature walks.

Incidentally, anyone who has watched people having sex -- REALLY having sex, as opposed having sex for the benefit of a camera or audience -- might not think it was ugly, but I'd be willing to put money on them thinking it was funny, in places.

It's still a hell of a lot of fun to do, though...

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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1/10/2015 10:29 pm

"People who are comfortable in the lifestyle are often quite joyful."

Yes- I've noticed that too.

As to sex being funny...HELL YES! It's hilarious- unless you're the one being laughed at! Even watching other species copulate is funny- we identify with them. I didn't get "the talk" when I was a kid. I was a farm kid, but kids being kids, I reasoned that animals behaved one way, and we, as humans, were above that. I first read about it. I didn't hear it at school or from farm workers, I read about it in "A World I Never Made" by James T. Farrell. The street wise Bill told young Danny O'Neill the facts of life. He explained that a man stuck his dick in a woman and peed in her, and that's how babies were made. It took me some weeks to be disabused of the accuracy of that explanation- but it did start the ball rolling on my education. Imagine the hilarity that ensued when I proffered that synopsis of procreation to older bays at school!

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KItkat1415 61F  
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1/10/2015 11:54 pm

As I was reading the article that word "ugliness" jumped out.
I wonder if she did say it or if she added it for people who are puritanical to accept her.
Whatever the reason, maybe honesty is reall NOT her strong suit.
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humorlife 56M  
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1/11/2015 12:04 am

    Quoting KItkat1415:
    As I was reading the article that word "ugliness" jumped out.
    I wonder if she did say it or if she added it for people who are puritanical to accept her.
    Whatever the reason, maybe honesty is reall NOT her strong suit.
    Kitkat
I'm still not sure that she said it -- again, I'd like a more reliable source than an unsubstantiated site on the Internet -- but the basic point is there: A sex club, or swinging, isn't there for people to dive into when they're depressed or disaffiliated. It should be a joyful extension.

That said... heh heh heh. Saw what you did there regarding honesty. Nicely played!

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TicklePlease 56F  
13851 posts
1/11/2015 4:38 am

I've seen a lot of ugly in swing clubs.... not necessarily the bag-over-the-head kind, but the ugliness of couples trying to figure out their relationship in public, the ugliness of people judging others over their appearances, the ugliness of people trying SO HARD to get some attention, even inappropriate attention, the ugliness of the attitudes that people have to have sex with someone because they're both at the same venue.....

so maybe she's talking about the ugliness of the human animal, not so much the human form.


tazzerman2000 66M
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1/11/2015 4:39 am

"or at least singing about swinging – sells" pretty much sums it up for me! -tm

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humorlife 56M  
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1/11/2015 5:53 am

    Quoting TicklePlease:
    I've seen a lot of ugly in swing clubs.... not necessarily the bag-over-the-head kind, but the ugliness of couples trying to figure out their relationship in public, the ugliness of people judging others over their appearances, the ugliness of people trying SO HARD to get some attention, even inappropriate attention, the ugliness of the attitudes that people have to have sex with someone because they're both at the same venue.....

    so maybe she's talking about the ugliness of the human animal, not so much the human form.
If so, then she's twice the poet I've given her credit for, and long may she reign atop the Billboard charts!

*Sigh* You've nicely outlined a lot of the less-pleasant aspects of clubs... now, what songs bring out the positive? Surely some group has penned a laudatory ballad about 'em?

Eh, I say we pick the least-intelligible of Bob Dylan's work, call it the swing club anthem, and move on....

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humorlife 56M  
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1/11/2015 5:54 am

    Quoting tazzerman2000:
    "or at least singing about swinging – sells" pretty much sums it up for me! -tm

    p.s. Sorry I haven't been around much. I am baaaack though
Heh... in which case, an awful lot of groups are missing a golden opportunity...

Welcome back! Yeah, I haven't been posting much until recently as well. But look out, world...

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Mature43Sums 69F  
117 posts
1/11/2015 8:05 am

After viewing the video and watching the sloppy 3sum kisses with women and what seemed to be her drowning her pain in pleasure.....I took away that the "uglies" was the over eating and throwing up in the tub..

I find it strange that in all the different escapism mechanisms used....a sex club and picking up daddies was the only ones focused


humorlife 56M  
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1/11/2015 9:00 am

    Quoting Mature43Sums:
    After viewing the video and watching the sloppy 3sum kisses with women and what seemed to be her drowning her pain in pleasure.....I took away that the "uglies" was the over eating and throwing up in the tub..

    I find it strange that in all the different escapism mechanisms used....a sex club and picking up daddies was the only ones focused
To me, the song isn't so much about drowning her pain in pleasure as it is drowning her pain in what she calls unhealthy behavior. In excess, any of this behavior is destructive... but so is eating cheese, for instance.

I focus on how swinging is portrayed in the media -- and this song certainly counts -- so when she portrays something that brings a lot of people who engage in it responsibly as negative -- or "ugly" (which, again, she may or may not have said), to arms I go!

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Mature43Sums 69F  
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1/13/2015 10:08 am

I like when you go "to arms" as well as to other things....lol


humorlife 56M  
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1/13/2015 10:44 am

    Quoting Mature43Sums:
    I like when you go "to arms" as well as to other things....lol
All's fair in lust and war!

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humorlife 56M  
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1/19/2015 5:37 pm

    Quoting  :

It does have definite earworm potential!

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