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Beautiful or Average?  

myelin36 53F
4614 posts
4/11/2015 2:05 pm
Beautiful or Average?

I saw an interesting article circulating on social media this week. The Dove "Choose Beautiful" campaign ad. You may have seen it.


According to a study by Dove, 96% of women said they wouldn’t describe themselves as “beautiful” — although about 80% said there is something beautiful about them.

That is the question that has been posed to women by Dove in a new survey, and the results are shocking. Individuals were given the option of choosing to walk through the door marked, 'beautiful' or the door marked 'average.' Not surprisingly, the vast majority of participants were filmed walking through the 'average' door, corresponding closely with the survey results.

I think we live in a society where judging yourself as being 'beautiful' is akin to narcissism.

What say you? Given the choice between 'average' and 'beautiful', which door would you choose to walk through? Why do you think so many women chose the average door?

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39lawless 58F
6864 posts
4/11/2015 2:11 pm

I'd like to think I would walk through the beautiful side...

Sigh.

What a tough struggle we all have with truly and fully embracing ourselves and letting go of all the nonsense we've been fed. It makes me sad.

But I think there's hope...Dove should be proud of these ad campaigns. I hope it's causing lots of people to pause and think about all of it. And maybe little by little, we will change. xoxo

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normalisoktoo 54M

4/11/2015 2:28 pm

Well... I dunno how it is for women, but I would have a hard time being considered "beautiful". I know that I am not. And wouldn't pretend to be.

"Average" ain't so bad, considering all of the aspects involved.

Of course, I go by "normalisoktoo" -- so my view my be a bit askew, in that regard.


kittyliquor519 59M
2730 posts
4/11/2015 2:38 pm

What they didn't say was the signs on the OTHER side of those doors were switched.

I know I am average, it's acceptable to me.

Everyone is on a different plane of intelligence. Some people's plane has not taken off yet!!


s2ndegree 65M
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4/11/2015 2:49 pm

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fornow375 48M
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4/11/2015 2:53 pm

They may say they are average on the survey but REALLY believe they are beautiful.....


tickles4us 62M
7262 posts
4/11/2015 2:54 pm

Modesty? Insecurity? Low Self Esteem?

Beautiful, after all is in the eye of the beholder and is more a feeling or emotional response. The prettiest people can be far from beautiful once you get to know them and even unattractive people can be very beautiful to someone that loves them.

Pretty is more directly related to physical features.

So perhaps you are right in you're comment of society seeing judging oneself as beautiful as being narcissistic. I would say that I agree with that determination because of the way I use the word beautiful. So if I saw someone walking through the beautiful door I would wonder how much they love themselves and if they have any love left over for the ones in their lives?

However that brings up the question of why people can't love themselves without feeling wrong or perhaps uncomfortable about it? Modesty? Insecurity? Low self esteem? Maybe if they changed the word to pretty they would get more people going through that door. On the other hand don't most people think of themselves as average? Maybe they should change the average door to pretty or add a third door?

Of course you have to consider the fact that these people know someone is watching which door they are going through whether it's via the survey or the camera. Modesty?

Of course not all people use the same definitions of words right or wrong.

Or at least that's the way I understand and use the words.

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New2Midlo 54M
1075 posts
4/11/2015 3:06 pm

We all tend to marginalize our level of beauty; women are much harsher on themselves than men. I think there are a few reasons, at least for the fairer sex. You've touched on the first one, that a woman calling herself beautiful might seem narcissistic. Another potential dynamic could be that, as a society, we actually marginalize beautiful women. While they may be desired sexually, they tend to be ignored intellectually. I'm not even hinting that this is acceptable but I've run into more than my fair share of 'beautiful' women who have zero self-esteem because they're not taken seriously. My point is that there's a societal 'thing' (sorry, vocabulary sucks right after the gym) that says you can be gorgeous or smart. Pick one.


SlenderGal88 57F  
10361 posts
4/11/2015 3:23 pm

The dove commercials, the series of them, always are thought provoking

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BrownEyedBBW 55F  
8831 posts
4/11/2015 4:18 pm

I think it's a bullshit false dichotomy. There is a hell of a lot of ground between Beautiful and Average. This exercise makes a woman choose one or the other, and then implies that if a woman thinks of herself as average but that parts of herself are beautiful, somehow her self esteem is damaged.

No one is truly 100% anything; we all have parts that are beautiful, parts that are average and parts that are downright ugly. I think those are the very things that make us humans so wonderful.

Given the choice, I wouldn't go through either door.


ironman2769 58M  
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4/12/2015 3:08 am

It's an interesting question........sometimes we just take too much time tearin g our selves up...

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GimmeAThrill 55M  
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4/12/2015 5:49 am

I'd choose average. Not that I have a bad opinion of myself, but let's be honest about my case (and, I suspect, almost everybody's case); most people will find my looks appealing. Some will find me amazingly handsome. Some won't think much of my looks at all. On average, that's not 'beautiful', is it?

But is considering yourself 'average' a bad thing? I don't consider my looks a negative. I'm quite confident about them, really. If I get rejected for my looks, so b4e it; there's another out there who willl feel differently.

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myelin36 replies on 4/12/2015 9:57 am:
Thanks for sharing your feedback. It is very thought-provoking.

CleavageFan4U 67M
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4/12/2015 8:12 am

Surely, this is case of modesty, realistic, actual, or false – who can say.

I’ve learned many (dare I say MOST) women, are beautiful in some way (not necessarily physical) – IF you take the time to get to know them.

I’m “different” looking, clearly NOT a classically handsome, but perhaps with my own endearing qualities.

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nil_a_wafer 76M

4/12/2015 5:11 pm

I just watched this on the tube. I found this to be very interesting.

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rkashyap58 34M
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4/18/2015 2:34 am

if u think u r beautiful then u r no matter who thinks what


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